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love this, as opposed to letting the government do it. we he don't need the government to do this. this is what americans can do. stuart: you've got the last word on me there, mark lanier, very good, very good. you walk away from your 227 million, mark, have a wonderful new year. >> thank you. stuart: a massive storm, serious stuff here, big storms through the u.s., high winds, snow, everybody came down and stranding a lot of travelers across the country and dumping inches of snow in some cities, actually feet in some areas. roadways in the northeast covered with snow, again, two feet of snow in some areas. big delays in a lot of airports. big headaches for holiday travelers, that storm is blamed for the at least six deaths. if congress and the president can't come up with a plan and we dive on that fiscal cliff, look what would happen to the average federal taxpayers, the average taxpayer is roughly 50,000 bucks a year and that person would pay a extra, 1238 per year in taxes. in fact, every taxpayer would pay more if we go over that cliff. clearly, that would be a hit to the ove
between 40 and $65,000 a year will have to pay an extra two grand to the government. gregg: coming up we'll talk with republican nick mulvaney whose house budget committee is obviously on the forefront of the fiscal talk. so we'll try to get the latest from him in just a moment. patti ann: meanwhile, gregg, we have new warnings from the treasury department that if a fiscal deal isn't reached our government will have to turn to extraordinary measures when the debt limit hits its ceiling. $16.4 trillion probably on monday. fox business network's stuart varney joins us now. hi, stu. you say this is the big story people aren't talking about? >> it is a sleeper issue, patti ann. on monday the government officially runs out of money and it can not borrow anymore. so it will have to shift all kind of cash around to make sure they can pay their bills and maybe they can do that for a couple of months. means you can kick the can, eight weeks be maybe, until the absolute crunch comes. there are consequences to this. it could be that america will be downgraded again. after all back in august of 2011
to the president's desk. tracy: click and expedient. lori: the efficiency. tracy: u.s. government set to hit the legal borrowing limit on monday. 16.$4 trillion federal debt limit beginning to come down and toch congress passes legislation or defaults. treasury secretary tim traders said the treasury would begin to undertake "extraordinary measures to stave off default quote that could $3,200,000,000,000 of additional funding which would give them two more months this is creative accounting. we have many. lori: the overspending is the understatement. the bond yield is lower investors are thinking this is the safest bet stocks are falling the dow was off 100 points europe is a mess in china slows down the global economy in dire straits and we cannot stop spending there is no message in interest rates are rising as they should to prepare for another downgrade which is very concerning talking about the economic data data, consumer confidence falls over fiscal cliff uncertainty and warning the government is set to hit the legal borrowing limit by a monday. we have bill rodgers from rutgers unive
that has been taken up by our unfunded government programs. that is the number one cause of our fiscal and debt problem and it's not going away. so it looks like 2013 is going to be real. it's going to be dealing with issues of peace and war, national identity and issues of personal security. you think it's not important? say it and you're part of the problem. and that's "hardball" for now. th thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the gop is in denial and they're scrambling to make a deal. the only problem? they still haven't learned that they're going to have to compromise. just hours ago, president obama returned home from christmas vacation. looking to jump start negotiations and protect millions from seeing their taxes go up. the news comes after a conference call that mr. boehner held with gop house members, telling them to return to washington this sunday. but just because they're coming back doesn't mean they're looking to play nice. today, senator harry reid blasted the s
also want to see hiring happening and that's where that government jobs report that we focus on once a month, that's where that comes into play. we're going to get the next one next week, that government jobs report and the big worry, carol, that's hanging over all of this is the fiscal cliff. although we're still in the middle of wondering what congress is going to do about it, companies are already holding back hiring so that is clearly impacting the jobs market but the good news once again is the layoffs are slowing, down 12,000 to 350,000 last week. carol? >> thank you very much, washington. alison kosik thank you so much. >>> growing outrage over the decision of a new york newspaper to publish a map with the names and addresses of people who have gun permits. the interactive map was created with information available publicly. it pinpoints the location of legally licensed permit holders for handguns. we reached out for a statement from the newspaper, it sent us this, "the massacre in newtown, connecticut, remains at top-of-mind for many of our readers. or readers are understanda
that in three business days, the summit government is going to run out of borrowing capacity. john, if there were a treasurer in a business who went to their boss and said by the way, three business days, the working capital account dies and as a result, you are not going to make payroll next week, that person would be fired. we get three days notice about hitting the debt ceiling? that seems absurd to me. >> it is not a surprise.rise we have known we were coming to this point and there are two months more -- geithner estimated in that letter that the ways in which the federal government can manage money will give about would months worth of head room, possibly even longer. february or march or -- where we really get to the -- rubber hits the road on that issue. so -- this is not a shock to anybody in government but the publication of this letter and the elevation of the issues in attempt was done in 2011. there was an early moatfication by treasury this was about to happen, trying to get congress to move in a -- interest didn't work then. we will see if it works now. >> defaulting
government agencies are planning no immediate changes because they're anticipating some kind of deal. that leaves the unemployed, extended unemployment insurance will expire immediately if we go over the cliff. a deal later in january could theoretically restore extended benefits, the immediate damage will have already been done. for many people, this is all an interesting charade. but for the unemployed it's the real deal. get your cell phones out, i want to know what you think. tonight's question, who will the public blame if we go over the fiscal cliff? text a for democrats, text b for republicans to 622329. i'll bring you the results later in the show. >>> joining me now is congressman elijah cummings of maryland. welcome to the show. >> it's good to be with you. >> what do you make of the latest posturing. the house will they reconvene before january? they have a lot of stuff to do, so clearly they can't make it back to d.c. to do the people's business. >> as you said a few minutes ago, we have been assured we would be given at least 48 hours notice before we would have to come
a deep channel. >>> and america's population growth is slowing down. the government says it's due to lower birth rates during the economic recession and lower immigration numbers. as we start the new year, there will be 315 million people in the united states. the population, though, has grown less than .75% since 2010. so a slower rate of growth. still, 315 million people is -- >> seems like enough people in some places, that's for sure. thanks, lisa. >>> hopes have been crushed and families in the making ripped apart. a new law bans americans from adopting russian children. ng tom about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit vwdealer.com today. >>> from what we surmise, this meeting at the white house between the presiden
,000 a year would pay an extra two grand or so to the government. gregg: the big question, do lawmakers hope to get anything out of the last minute fiscal cliff talks or is it just for show? democratic congressman chris van hollen is the ranking member of the house budget committee. he will be joining us live coming up in the next hour what he really thinks is going on. patti ann: well the u.s. economy meanwhile could suffer yet another major blow. looming strikes at ports from next sass to boston are threatening to put thousands of americans out of work. with potential losses for u.s. businesses ranging in the billions. >> the port of baltimore is one of maryland's largest economic generators. any type of work action that may result in a suspension or stoppage of work would have an adverse effect. >> we handle more cars, we handle more farm and construction equipment than any other u.s. port. patti ann: we're learning that adverse effect could take a toll on the economy. fox business network's stuart varney has more for us on that this morning. good morning, stu. >> good morning, patti ann.
for them to be a governing party in any way, particularly in the house of representatives. they are an oppositional party there. but it makes it impossible for john boehner to govern in any effective way to make any sort of negotiation with the president to avoid a fiscal cliff. and the larger issue is that the national populous as a whole wants to see congress get stuff done. they want the accomplishments. so it works for republicans in some statewide races, mostly not but it's not a national agenda. >> allow me to reintroduce myself as a tea party spokesperson. what they say is they are a governing party. you said they're not. they say they are a governing party and they right now are causing the government to completely rewire the way that it deals with the deficit. and they say that there is pain in that process. but the long-term debate and the reason why they don't need to be inside the meeting room is they've got so many of the people in that room afraid of them that we are having a debate between how much to cut the deficit and not to do jobs or stimulus and the th
the administration, destroy the energy of government, and substitute the pleasure, caprice or artifices of an insignificant, turbulent, or corrupt junta to the regular deliberations and decisions of a respectable majority." but in recent years, the senate has been remade into a super majority constitution. you need 60 votes to get almost anything done. between 2009 and 2010, we had more filibusters than we had in the '50s, '60s, and '70s combined. and they're not filibusters like we think of them, where the senators go to the floor and debate an issue until they keel over from exhaustion. they're just obstruction. if you watch a filibuster today, it doesn't look like anything. it's the blue screen on c-span, the one with the classical music playing over it. you don't tune in to here an intense minority demand a great debate on the issue of the day. you tune in to hear a string quartet. senator jeff merkley, a democrat from oregon is trying to change that. he's got a proposal to force talking filibusters in the senate. it wouldn't change what i think is a central part in the senate, the
the government. take a look at this. they got her back in the business. it's pretty awesome, right? the party of procrastination can take a lesson from the small-business owner in staten island, new york. congress has nothing to show for itself after two years. coming up next, how the massive gains in the fiscal cliff could impact your 401k and the economy. stay with us the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? gerri: big tax hikes set to t gerri: you make it, they take it. 23.8% is the raise that policymakers will see on capital gains. chris edwards joins me now. he is director for tax policy studies at the cato institute. i wo
. both sides are bouncing this thing. citizens for self governance, president mark mcclure joined by occidental professor caroline helpmann. let's start with you. bad deal worse than no deal? >> it is, and we're talking about the fiscal cliff. we are really dealing with is the fiscal fraud. we fell off the cliff along time ago. we are in the best, $16 trillion in debt. a debt our children and grandchildren will never be able to pay off, a total fraud, not dealing with spending, and unless they do we are not going to fix the problems is a country is facing. tom: same point, i mean, is this something that will start tuesday or have businesses and individuals already started be having different because of the fact that this whole process was coming up in addition to what the congressman was talking about? >> certainly was tree has been reacting to this, but i very much disagree about the causes. that is when we extended tax cuts do so wealthy individuals in 2001 and three did not need them and then we saw an incredible decrease in revenue as a result of wall street tanking our econom
on go bankrupt or the governments they are based on go bankrupt, and people are saying that might happen here. >> you could have a credit incident, but we're not going to destroy the faith in credit of the u.s. government. david: we already have. are you kidding, larry? we already have. >> i doubt it because, really, if the credit were destroyed, the cost of finance at the margin would be going up, and the cost of finance at the margin for the federal government is going down. >> larry, consumers are pulling back, a consumer that's pulling back, not spending as much, that is not going out and driving and consuming oil, the confidence seems eroded before a decision is made in dc. we don't even need a decision. david: larry, i know what you say about interest rates, overriding factor thinking about investment and how much cash, but, again, right for now, our credit rating is the best in the worlding but it's a lousy world of credit. that's the problem is that with all this money printing going on around the world, i'm wondering when that comes back to bite us. >> well, that's why you don't
this morning, saying the russian government's politically motivated decision will reduce adoption possibilities for children who are now under institutional care. were further concerned about statements that adoptions already under way may be stopped and hope that the russian government will allow those children who have already met and bonded with their future parents to finish the necessary legal procedures so that they can join their families. and as matthew said, there are just about 50 children that are in the pipeline right now. what senior state department officials are telling me is that they're hoping to get at least those through the pipeline, those children who have already met these parents to be able to be united with them, and then they'll work on trying to lift the whole ban, suzanne. >> elise, is there any kind of advice they're giving those families, those americans, who have already met with their potential children? what should they be doing now? >> reporter: well, right now all they can do, suzanne, is sit tight. they really -- the state department is working on these childr
democrats putting up votes to help make sure that we continue to fund the government, that we actually pay our bills as a government, that we find a balanced approach going forward. john boehner knows the votes from some of the republicans and some of the democrats can happen. and he's been unwilling to do that. >> do you think it's good -- >> it's hurting this country. >> is it good at this point in the process for harry reid to go on the senator floor and bash speaker boehner? does that not send a message this close to the deadline? >> he's trying to make it clear and i'm trying to make it clear that john boehner can't just say i'm not in there. of course, he is a player in this. if he does not work with the senate, work with the president and, again, the president has time and time again said we have some common ground here. if the republicans do agree, and they say they do, that they do not want to see tax rates go up on the american people, well, the president said let's make sure that we vote on that. 98% of americans can be protected from a tax increase. we can protect seniors under
. syria's government, however, today posted a statement on their syrian news agency website in which they blamed this on the actions of terrorists. that's the terminology they use for rebel fighters, opposition fighters in syria. they say that that town was targeted by terrorists and that because of that residents in that town called for the military, for the syrian military to intervene to help them to bring safety and restore security in that area. again, the residents we speak with clearly blaming the regime, and it's one day later and we hear of an attack on another bakery in the homs area. this is in the last few hours. you mentioned it a few minutes ago. we heard at least 15 killed, several children. very gruesome video. you see the corpse of a woman being pulled from the rubble there. the rage of the residents there about this happening is element indescribable. suzanne. >> is there any way of finding out? you have two very different stories. any way of finding out whether it's an international -- through an international body or people on the ground, who was responsible for b
was going on? why wasn't our government helping? >> it was bewildering. the parents tried to do it low-key. they couldn't get the case resolved. they came to me and our two wonderful u.s. senators. thanks to fox. thanks to o'reilly, sean hannity, greta, all of you were so helpful. all the press helped but you guys came to bat. that's why i don't really understand or believe that during a white house press briefing that the white house spokesperson said, oh, i don't know about the case. baloney. everybody had known about the case. gregg: they knew. >> we had been bringing that up. gregg: right. >> this is a family of strong christian faith. for them, as we celebrate the birth of christ tonight what a more meaningful present than, than the god delivering their son to them tonight. gregg: look, we want to talk to you about a couple of subjects here and that one, thankfully turned out well. let's turn now to benghazi because you are very involved in this. an independent investigation, i know you read it, produced this blisser iting report what they refer to as systemic failures in the very
on the capital. they're search-rich and is a former french colony. they say the government is not honoring a cease five including release of political leaders. >> back in the u.s., the storm has come and gone and at least 16 deaths are blamed on the weather. in hard-hit arkansas, more than 135 homes and businesses remain without power. edward lawrence reporting. >> reporter: snow blowers and plows are pushing through a foot of snow in the upstate new york. the icy snow is a challenge for those who only have a shovel. >> it's been brutal. >> reporter: the storm drops several inches in the northeast and new england making it hard to get out and get around. streets are a problem in west virginia and maryland. this woman skit off the road and hit a mailbox. >> we just lost control. yeah, pretty scary. >> reporter: the weather is part of the same mass av system that crossed the country this week dumping snow from the west coast to the east coast and creating powerful tornadoes in the south. bad weather continues to delay flights in the northeast. that's bad news for holiday travelers trying to
happens january 1st. here's why they get sales from government contracts. that's the deal. it's not just the lockheed martins of the world. you'll see in here, humana, other health care companies, of course, medical device companies hit with the tax, but they have striker, for example, and there's a lot of sales from government contracts. you'll see in here, look at that, motorola, holdings in and waste management companies like waste management and republic services, ashley. ashley: what are the stock prices on the companies, iz? >> good point. goldman sachs warned since 2011 when that debt ceiling crisis hit in the summer of 2011 that triggered the fiscal cliff learning that the companies could under perform, but there's another wall street player, and that's fidelity saying watch for the banks, not just because they are under pressure as they track the general economy, but it's because business capital spending is down as of the third quarter, really went south, worried about that and activity dropping off by 20% versus the prior year, and banks make a lot of fee money. people, you k
the world. look at japan and europe. the japanese government is the glaring war on japanese citizens. it will create inflation. if the japanese citizens start to dump their bonds, they have been a bigger part then japan recently. that is a big problem for us. their euro has been quietly depreciating. if that goes out, that is a much bigger fiscal cliff. if the buyers of treasuries become sellers. liz: there are a lot of "if" in your discussion. the bond markets are still pretty -- nothing from the bottom vigilantes yet. you were a clinton advisor. you saw in the mid- 90s bond yields really spike higher. that is the issue. if we see the economy healing, bond yields could go up. investors say, wait a second, why invest for bond. >> that is the key issue. we have not seen interest rates spike for a simple reason. nobody has confidence in the economy. nobody believes we will have robust economic growth. we could be heading towards a recession. especially given the disappointing christmas sales. i am frankly skeptical about what will happen with our economy either way. i think we will go
geithner says the government will hit the debt ceiling on monday and he is launching an emergency plan to avert a crisis. amm eamon javers is live. what do we know? >> the president is coming back early, a couple days earlier than his vacation. did a little bit of jogging, working out in the gym over his vacation. now he will be,ing would out on this fiscal cliff. the senate is coming back and the house of representatives is going to have a conference call for all republicans later on today and then yesterday, we saw the secretary of the treasury, tim geithner, announced the $16.4 trillion debt limit is going to be reached by monday, that was a little bit surprising to people who haven't been following this kind of thing and raises the stakes for the fiscal cliff end game because the white house had wanted a debt ceiling deal as part of the overall deal here on the fiscal cliff. republicans have been resisting that by announcing the debt ceiling limit will be held on monday, ratchets up the pressure to include the debt ceiling piece in the final package, whatever that may be, but still
said the government will blow through the borrowing limit that congress set in 2011. he warned the window to act is narrow or else a treasury could default. in washington, lisa will walk us through. first, let's explain what exactly the debt limit is and it sounds like maxing out a credit card, but not precisely so. >> that's right. it is not like maxing out your credit card. we are going to make it as interesting as possible. it is important. the debt limit is not like maxing out your credit card. this is money we spent as a nation. this is a lot more like buying a house. committing to a $200,000 house and signing the papers and imposing a rule on yourself that you can only borrow $100,000. you need $200,000 and you spent the money, but you have the cap that you imposed on yourself. that's what the debt limit is. we will look at where we are with this handy graphic. the debt limit is $16.394 trillion. where are we now? we are at 16.337. we are just under the limit. almost reached our capacity. >> getting that far, it's our own fault and putting ourselves in this predicament. o
,000 people signed sniet we started yt we the people" so you could petition if government on the matters you care about the most. >> reporter: it allows anyone to create a petition and with 25,000 signatures in 30 days the white house promise as response. since the shooting the website has received more than a dozen petitions supporting gun rights and gun control, but the requests aren't always serious. >> that's not a moon. it's a space station. >> reporter: one asks the federal government to secure resources and 23u7bding to build a dealt star by 2016. it has 32,000 signatures. multiple states have asked to recede from the u.s. the move to kick morgan out of the country may have some support but laughing it off. tweeting merry christmas, even to those who want me deported. >> two others have pop up. one asked u.s. to keep him because britain doesn't want him back, the other says his spiech is protected. much of the admin station knew -- >> do they realize how social media -- >> there you go. >> consider can get a mass of people for anything. >>> it was a busy year
fiscal cliff deal. meantime, treasury warns the government will hit its legal borrowing limit by monday. it's thursday, december 27th, 2012 and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning and welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm andrew ross sorkin along with joe kernen. becky continues to have the day off today. our guest host today is bob broska. house speaker john boehner urging the senate to come up with a passable fiscal cliff solution. he's promising to at least consider any bill that the upper chamber produces. senate majority leader harry reid now expected to base any legislation on a bill passed earlier this year to continue tax breaks for households will incomes below $250,000. a senate bill would likely contain an extension of expiring unemployment benefits. and the other big news of the morning, treasury secretary tim geithner unveiling a plan to buy time under the debt ceiling. in a letter to congress, geithner saying that treasury is going to begin taking steps this week to delay hitting the government's 16$16.4 trillion borrowing limit. treasury will tak
's government unleashes its most sophisticated weapons of the war. missiles from iran. we'd like to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. wolf blitzer is off today. i'm candy crowley and you're in "the situation room." >>> i want to begin with a crisis you probably don't know is coming and, of course, is just about to hit. barring a last minute deal, union dock workers at more than a dozen major ports will go on strike this weekend. meaning just about everything we buy, from clothes to cars, can't be unloaded. the strike would impact 14 port along the eastern seaboard in gulf coast, including the port of baltimore and that's where we find cnn's brian todd live. the potential impact of this is pretty big. >> reporter: it's huge, candy. right here, this is one of the most crucial ports for commerce in this region. the sieger terminal. you can see massive container ships sitting in port. this is the port terminal with the bustling operations, containers still being moved in and out of here by a truck that are being offloaded from the ships here at the terminal. about
government, not raise taxes. it's not for 500 years or two generations. it's only as long as you're in the house or the senate. if he stayed too long, that's his problem. but you don't tell the bank, oh, the mortgage, wasn't that long time ago? if you make a commitment, you keep it. >> coming up, was mitt romney done in by his own party? when we come back, the republican presidential candidates who may have inflicted mortal damage on him rather than president obama. >> i'm just going to go back to the empty chair, which was going to be todd akin, who was going to talk to me about what hide said about rape and women. since it's just the chair, my obvious question would have about why are you such an offensive idiot to women? and the second obvious question, which again has to go to the chair unfortunately, would be why haven't you resigned yet? anyway, let's leave it there, shall we? they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. make a wish! i wish
geithner has warned congress hat u.s. will reach its debt ceiling on monday. that is when the government reaches its legal borrowing limit. now, this could pose a bigger threat to the nation's credit rating than the fiscal cliff. treasury can keep the government operating for a few weeks using emergency measures, but congress needs to act on this too to avoid a full-blown debt crisis. alina cho. joins us with the ret of the top stories. >>> former president george h.w. bush remains in intensive care in a houston hospital with an elevated fever. he is on a liquid diet an his condition is listed as guarded. his spokesman quotes him as saying i'm determined not to be dprumpy with all of this. >>> toyota has agreed to pay up in a major way, $1.1 billion to settle a class action suit over sudden acceleration issues. under the deal toyota will install a brake override system in effective cars. it will also set up a fund of $250 million for former toyota owners who sold their cars from september of 2009 through all of 2010. that money would compensate owners for their car's reduced value becaus
amounts to 8 1/2 days of government spending. he's willing to raise everybody's taxes and hold the country hostage over the issue and the economy hostage because he so wants his rate increase for 8 1/2 days of spending? tell me where the sense in that is. >> you know, you know, i'll give you this. you are strong on principle, sean. but let me tell you something, you are way, way out of line with the thinking of the american people. it's something like 60% now, i think it's in the mid-50% of americans who approve of president obama's handling of the budget negotiations. the president cut his vacation short. and you talk about the senate doing nothing. >> let me ask you this. >> the senate has passed a bill that would give an extension of the bush tax cuts to 98% of americans, sean. 98%. john boehner, a guy i like very much, but john boehner's ratings are now lower than nancy please sis. that's what the american people think about the way the republicans have handled it. >> the senate hasn't done their job in 1300 days and somehow, brent, the blame is on the republicans who did pass a bill,
for is increasing taxes that will only pay for 8 1/2 days of government spending. now president obama has not been a leader on this. he's not been serious. he's been acting weak and, of course, clinging to his radical ideology. enough is enough. maybe it's time to have the republicans call the president's bluff. let him take the country over the fiscal cliff if he so chews. republicans were elected to get the fiscal house in order. maybe it's time to stand up for your kids, your grandchildren. maybe they should dig in their heels and say they are looking out for the future and future generations. maybe now is is a time to take a principle stand and say they are not going to let washington continue with the out of control spending, the debts and deficit. maybe now at this moment maybe that's the right thing to do. joining me now with reaction to the developing steer are congressman loui gomert and -- go ahead. >> i can totally with him that he cannot imagine our consciouses in the house because you would have to have one to imagine ours, and he's shown repeatedly over three years of no budget? come
to trim the size and scope of government, whether it was the bush tax cuts a decade ago or whether it was the debate over the debility ceiling just over a year ago is going to likely end up as an effort to expand the size and scope of government. that's something that can only happen in washington. >> eric: both of those guys make very good points. a lot of people are asking why would you say go over the fiscal cliff? i have a lot to lose if we go over the fiscal cliff. my taxes would go up. i'm heavily invested in the stock market. it will probably take a big hit. but in the long run, the only way to solve america's debt problem -- we have a debt problem. we have a very bad debt problem. we're on our way to $20 trillion in debt, maybe 25 in the next five to ten years. the only way to fix that is go over the fiscal cliff 'cause clearly democrats don't want to cut spending. they'll have to be forced into that and the only way that happens is hit the sequestration, the things that the fiscal cliff will bring of the that's why. i'll take the medicine, the pain now for a healthier econ
this is insanity and the threat to the economy is not a reasonable way to govern. >> mike, how -- again, not to oversimplify this thing, but how did we get here? i think most folks following this fairly closely assumed that as is the case with a lot of things in washington, d.c. that at the 11th hour withere will ba deal that gets done. there are a lot of folks involved in the deal making saying, it won't happen this time. >> well, look. i think ari is right in one real respect which is they set this up, you know, more than a year ago as a way of trying to provide counter pressure to the political pressures that exist across the board on all of these lawmakers and these individual districts. they thought that the pressure, the scare tactic that they put on themselves of deep defense cuts on the one side and deep cuts to domestic programs on the other side forces everybody to the table. it clearly turned out that in the wake of the election we had, the pressures in their districts, the threat of being primaried especially on the republican side meant that folks aren't willing to move as
to see i increase my interest because these guys can't run a government, you're looking at going toward a recession where we're playing politics in washington. this is very serious. this is not just beltway rhetoric here. i think that people need to understand to the point of calling their congressional representative in outrage today saying, we should not be at this point. they're playing politics with the actual livelihood of families. this is not something that it will be all right a week or two or three or four. we start to go down that cliff, we don't know whether the momentum downward is going to be very, very damaging. >> yeah. >> maybe. >> you got na smirk on your face. >> maybe. i agree with the reverend that they're playing politics with livelihoods, because it is a huge risk. you're right about that. i disagree a little bit on the sort of dramatic, immediate impact of it. what we could get -- this is a possibility, and i'm trying to be optimistic because it's towards the end of the year. it's been crummy for a lot of people. we could get a deal the third week of january where
value, at the turn of the 20th century where government spending was 9% of gdp, we're now at 25%. there are some that say, take what we give you and retrofit government to the size of 19% or 20%. do that first. he just wants to shrink what it's grown to, this unwielding federal government that -- don't you think 25% needs to come down? >> well, part of that is cyclical. >> okay. so at 3%? >> 21, 22. >> i would say 22. >> so we have to get it down to 20.5. >> the three big beasts in the budget remain medicare/medicaid, social security and defense. you have to cut almost everything else to zero to get close to balance or to make a big difference. so i think in today's world, given that those entitlements, even if you reform them and cut back back will increase as people like us eventually retire. it seems to me that sizing the government for something around 22 or so is probably doable. but not easy to get to. because you still have to have major cuts and major long titlement reform to get there. >> you see one of the major ceo guys, and i'm not going to quote which one, said yest
majority leader harry reid now saying that it appears that the government will miss the deadline for avoiding the fiscal cliff. so what will that mean, and how will america respond come january 1st? gregg: new developments in the investigation into the deadly connecticut school shooting. jenette sises have been asked to study the gunman's dna. what can they learn about it? gregg: severe weather alert. winter warnings in effect as a brutal storm is sweeping through the u.s. it brought massive amounts of snow and even tornados to parts of country and claimed at least 15 lives. illinois was no exception. major problems on the roads as snow and sleet pounded the area, forcing some businesses to remain closed. maria molina is keeping an eye on the storm from the extreme weather center. we're going to get the latest, top of the hour. >> new year's eve is fast approaching and for decade and decade the american people have watched the ball drop in times square. it is the countdown to midnight, the start of a new year. but this year, mr. president, the american people are waiting for the
your bank that goes to the federal government. but you can go online and with free holiday shipping purchase a high capacity magazine. even the law enforcement in the communities have no way of know ing a large number of weapons, perhaps a bullet proof vest. that might send off a few alarms. making it harder to sexercise te right to vote. we should think that people are more responsible owning a gun than casting a ballot. that is part of what is being revealed. >> i want to go to one other finding in this study about this. it is about the notion of people need guns for protection. >> there is no evidence that a gun in the home reduces the likelihood of severe iity durin break in. it is actually going to be usable in a way that will protect you. >> to the contrary. those same studies have shown, they are are more likely to go through if there is a gun in the house. what is more likely to happen is you are going to get shot. what happened is, they didn't kill the shooter. the shooter killed themselves. they were in able to get to it. >> they looked at the mass events. if somebody had
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would only fund the government for eight days. >> the senate is set to reconvene sunday at 1:00 eastern time. the house expected to be in session sunday. are going to start around 2:00 with the first votes coming around 6:30 p.m. let's head on over to the white house. kristen welker standing by. a lot happening in washington, d.c. a lot happening i would assume at the white house. but how engaged is the presidented to in moving this thing forward? >> reporter: good afternoon, t.j. i am told there are conversations going on at the staff level. as you know, he met with congressional leaders here at the white house for about an hour on friday. now sources who are familiar with that conversation tell me that the president essentially said to lawmakers, you have two options. one, come up with a plan that can make its way through both chambers, or allow his proposal to go through a vote in both chambers. and that's what you heard the president referencing in that sound bite that you just aired, t.j. in the president's proposal it calls for extending the bush era tax cuts for those making $250
. >> good morning, dave. >> dave: they will be fined if the government chooses $1.3 million a day for not going along with obama care. why? >> that's how the law is written. and this mandate is written so that if they don't provide abort fascia's that's what they're opposed to the in hha mandate. some opposed to abortions. hobby lobby don't want to pay for abortion pills cord under the hh mandate. they will be penalized again for what costs roughly a couple of dollars per person maybe a month in their nrch plan. $100 for each of the 13,000 employees they have. just not it not giving their employees access to for free at no cost and no co-pay abort faces. that's what's at issue here. this is a religious freedom issue. and a question of like the supreme court handled the citizens united do corporations also have if they have got free speech rights in the first amendment. why wouldn't they have the free exercise of religion rights that are also in fact, they start the first amendment as the religious -- i think it's a very important point to make that though hobby lobby has had a tou
. that town harbors a lot of anti government sentiment. liberated by rebels just a week ago. and because of that, they were targeted by the regime yesterday. they issues a statement and blame what happened to terrorists, and that's the term they use when talking about rebel fighters. the townspeople called for help. called for intervention from the syrian regime. and they sent in military and started killing and arrested terrorists there. diplomacy is still going on to forge some sort of path for syria. the joint u.n. arab league envoy to syria arrived in damascus last night and he left the country since then and spoke to reporters briefly this morning and told them about his discussions with assad. here is more of what mr. brahimi had to say. dana, mr. brahimi has since left syria he says the situation is dire and he hopes they can come to some agreement to alleviate the misery for the syrian people. >> you are on the phone, and lucky enough to get you face to face. thank you for that and for that report. as gruesome and grim as it was. >>> ahead on "starting point" criticism from the r
indebtedness by the federal government, and i would also add a prayer that the democrats and republicans would work together to avoid that. we have just got to get together. disaster is not red or blue. it's going to be american, and we don't want it. >> and we don't want to cash in our chips, but that's the final hand. our thanks to all of our guests for being here and to you for watching. on behalf of all the folks at "ac 360" and cnn, i'm tom foreman wishing you all of the best and none of the worst in 2013. x xx x >>> tonight, finding faith and purpose this holiday season. >> there's so much bad news in the world. we need good news. >> america's pastor rick warren joins me. >> people say i fell out of love. that's your choice. >> he talks religion, reason, and what america needs now. >> the good life isn't good enough. what you need is the better life. >> the election, the economy, same-sex marriage and more, to the issues that really matter. >> you know why we have to change the constitution? it was a flawed document. it was made by men. >> what does god mean to you? this is "piers morgan
of government in american life, that's why it is so hard to get to a deal. >> how dramatic. who would think talking about money and fiscal issues would garner so much drama, jessica. >> reporter: well, it is washington. and it is a lot at stake. it is about people's taxes, and, you know, the social safety net in america. it is the difference between democrats and republicans. >> yeah. we're going to talk more about the money now. thank you, jessica yellin. appreciate it. to new york now, joining us rick neuman, chief business correspondent for "u.s. news & world report." i want to ask you about the tax increase if there is no deal and tax rates rise, when would workers begin to see that reflekr reflected in their paychecks? when does the pain start? >> this is not one tax hike. this is about nine different sets of taxes. and the one that would go up right away is the payroll tax. that was cut temporarily in 2 009, cut by two percentage points and will go back up by two percentage points and that would come out of workers' paychecks right off the bat. it would add up to something like $60, $
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it in their paycheck and they will after january 1. the government will be taking more out of their paychecks and when the tax time will roll by in april, they'll feel it and businesses will feel it. once people will see they're losing money on this deal you'll see more public outrage about it. >> david naka, mura, calling for an up or down vote if the senate can't come up with it. he's talking about 250,000, at one point 400,000. is it realistic to think that the president can win this thing on an up or down vote? >> if they actually go to an up and down vote there will be a lot of pressure on those who were against a temporary fix with this to make their case known and actually go on the record. that's why the question is would the republican senators who would oppose this thing at the $250,000 level, they would use some of the mechanisms they have like the fill buster and things that the public doesn't like, but they're certainly part of the tools that the senators have to object to these things. would they block it? as mark murray said, this is about the blame game and setting up and if you'll blo
that cuts 23 to 35 billion. you put that in the mix. again we have to go through all aspects of government to figure out where we can save and at the same time we've got to reform entitlement programs to make sure they're is vent for the long term the those ideas have been put forward. we have to come together on a package and do it. adam: this is simple yes or no, senator before i let you go. are you here monday night talking to us about how we go over the cliff or do we get a resolution, yes or no? >> yes, i think there is chance we will be. the house is coming back. that's a good sign. let's get everybody here. let's get after it. adam: senator john hoeven, one of the most popular governors when you were governor of your state. thanks very much for joining us the senator joining us from washington, d.c. we'll not let this one go though because obviously it looks like a complete absolute mess in washington, d.c. can the gop and democrats still pull a deal out of the fire before the deadline? i'm joined now by our money power panel. steve hayes, senior writer with the "weekly standard" an
federal tax rates rising. government spending shrinking. and defending on details of your own situation, various tax breaks slipping away. in other words what we're calling the fiscal cliff. a plan to stop it all from happening still alludes washington, so congress has broken camp for the holidays and the president has gone to holiday on vacation. brianna keilar is out there for us in honolulu, eight days away from the fiscal cliff. are there any contacts occurring on this topic between the president and anyone in congress, briana? >> reporter: there is an open line of communication, i would say, with senate democrats, hala. but there is really no substantive conversations between the folks that you with need for there to be conversations between in order to strike a deal. the white house and congressional republicans, and perhaps more alarmingly, senate democrats are not in conversations right now with senate republicans or with house republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it th
if the government feels request is unduly intrusive or invase i have privacy it could be denied. it was not denied. they gave it to the paper. they published it. jamie: they did not publish all the information. the some information government did not feel was appropriate to release. let me pose this to you, rebecca, this is policy issue rather than legal question. one of the people wrote me back, a friend of mine in texas, a former black hawk pilot, female friend of mind, please publish my address, let robbers know i'm well-armed and locked and loaded. >> that is what she said because she can protect herself. what about all the citizens who have absolute legal right to bear arms who are now basically outed for criminals to come in to attempt to get their firearms? because on the black market, firearms are extremely profitable. i just think it was, irresponsible of the newspaper. what is the good? when we're looking here, we'll looking to balance fair and equitable, what is the good? what is benefit for the newspaper to have written and outed these people? why? what is the purpose of this? i think
. and you'll notice that when employer gets to around the adjusted withholding, the government spending cuts, those are also scheduled for january 1st and bound to slow the economy and some argue they'll weaken the military. congress has seen this coming, but an effort to limit the damage failed last week. republican house speaker john boehner could not persuade enough members of his party to let tax rates rise on incomes over a million dollars while sparing everyone else. dana bash is our senior congressional correspondent. dana, this time tomorrow, the president is supposed to be back, having cut his trip to hawaii short, the first lady, the girls are staying in hawaii. the senate is supposed to convene, but not necessarily the house. what is going to happen? >> reporter: well, we're not really sure. in fact, house republican leaders are having a conference call, i'm told, as we speak, to figure out that very question. they told their members that they would have 48 hours notice before they reconvene the house and so at the earliest, that would be on friday. but, you know, the action reall
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